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Matthew Cooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Crumplecorn
There's no RP reason for no local in 0.0, gates are the mechanism by which notifications are likely handled, and the 0.0 gates are the same as those in empire.
On top of that, the entire gate system itself is under CONCORD jurisdiction, newly constructed stargates require CONCORD approval to be activated, such as when the drone regions were opened up to players.
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Matthew Cooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Arhes Branwin
Does Concord respond in 0.0 to anything, including attacking a stargate? Some of the gates are even smuggler's gates...not ones placed there by one of the empire factions. Why shouldn't someone be able to destroy them.
And please, I'm merely playing devil's advocate here. I'm not suggesting that the majority of 0.0 be totally lockdown-able by it's controlling alliances/corporations.
There's at least one, if not multiple EVE Chronicles that mention CONCORD activity in 0.0, but they're all busy with their failed attempts to take out the NPC pirates out there.
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Matthew Cooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Frug
How are so many people suddenly against removing local as a spy tool?
I thought everyone wanted local nerfed for that. I sure do.
Everyone? 
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Matthew Cooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: Matthew Cooper on 10/07/2007 01:11:32
This is a compromise I would be happy with:
Players flying a cloaked ship in space do not show up in local unless they say something in local. They would however, be visible in the local list to corp/alliance members. Everyone else in space/docked at a station would remain on the list as they do now.
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Matthew Cooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
I want local chat nerfed
It would go a long way to help deal with 0.0 isk farmer Ravens. I hate them.
How so? And secondly, why is it that people complain so much more about farming Ravens these days than macro miners? Are there really that many more Ravens with cloaks in 0.0 than there are barges in Empire?
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Matthew Cooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
I rarely go to empire so what happens there doesn't bother me.
I rarely go to 0.0, so what happens there doesn't bother me. 
Originally by: Tarminic
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Matthew Cooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
then you have no reason to post in a "remove local for 0.0" thread
Pardon me for forgetting my sarcasm tag. The 0.0 economy and the Empire economy are not seperate, and things that happen in one will have an indirect effect on the other. Since I haven't seen the "numbers" on macro ratters I can only make guesses based on my own experience. It's easy to take a screenshot of a belt with 20 macro miners in it, it's not easy to take a screenshot of X number of cloaking Ravens spread across 0.0. Since the population of 0.0 is much less than empire, I can only guess that the number of macro cloak ravens is a lot less than the number of macro miners.
Secondly, barring the occasional officer spawn that is going to a macro ratter, I don't see how these people are having a direct impact on your ability to rat. If they safe spot when you enter local, then they are no longer preventing you from ratting there, nor are they preventing you from ratting anywhere else. On the other hand, macro miners can mine out belts entirely in empire, forcing miners to move elsewhere.
That aside, there's the concept of the "slippery slope". If people complained to CCP enough to remove local in 0.0, it's not too hard to imagine people complaining until local was removed entirely from the game. That applies to me, which is why I have reason to post in a thread about removing local from 0.0
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Matthew Cooper
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Posted - 2007.07.10 04:28:00 -
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Edited by: Matthew Cooper on 10/07/2007 04:27:29
Originally by: Ephemeron
these people bother me cause I can't effectively kill them
Are you looking for easy kills? If so, too bad.
Or are you looking to actually prevent these people from farming? I'd rather see this problem solved through petitions or just preventing it by forcing them to stay cloaked 23/7 so they're forced to move elsewhere or farm something else. I don't want to see long-established game mechanics compromised just to make it a little easier for you to pop them.
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